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Petition Type: New
ID: 3013
Submitted: January 25, 2017 at 7:34:09 PM
First Name: Vivian
Last Name: Ren
Student Number: 10097208
Email: v.ren@queensu.ca
Degree Program: BCH
Plan: BMCO
Level of Study: 4
Petition Categories
Petition Categories: Add a course after the academic deadline
Code: CISC 271
Term: Winter
Year: 2017
Petition Category: Add a course after the academic deadline
Instructor's Name: Randy Ellis
Petition Letter
Petition Letter: To Whom It May Concern:
My name is Vivian Ren, and I am currently a fourth year Biomedical Computing student. I am appealing to add CISC 271 after the add/drop deadline for the Winter 2017 term. Due to problems with filling pre-requisites, as had I swapped majors from Biochemistry to Biomedical Computing during my third year, I require a fifth year to complete my current plan. CISC 271 was one such course that required me to take pre-requisites I could not fill normally here at Queen's due to scheduling problems. It is also a course that is required for me to take CISC 330 and CISC 471 next year. All of these courses are required in my degree plan and, as such, are needed for me to graduate.
Originally, I planned to take Athabasca University's MATH 270 and MATH 271 courses during the Summer of 2015 as a transfer credit for MATH 110 here at Queen's, as required of the CISC 271 pre-requisites. However, after I finished MATH 270 in June 2015, MATH 271 had closed for registration as it went under revision. As it wasn't yet necessary for me to take CISC 271 during the 2015/2016 school year, I decided that I would take MATH 271 when next available.
However, checking on Athabasca's course availability, combined with correspondence to Athabasca's course advisers throughout the 2015 to 2016 years resulted in inaccurate information as to when the course would be available. At first, I was given an immediate answer by the course coordinator that MATH 271 will not be open most likely until November 2015. After November, however, the course availability on the site changed to Spring 2016. After that, it changed to Fall 2016 and by the first week of September, the course still was not available. At this point, I desperately required the course for CISC 271 for the Winter term, and an email sent to their academic advisers told me that the course would be up in January 2017. As of January 25th (the date when this letter was written), Athabasca University's course availability for MATH 271 appears to have been updated and the new course opening is expected to be Summer 2017. I had to look for an alternative else I had to take yet another year for my Bachelor's degree.
Asking for an exception for CISC 271 based on my circumstances, of course, got me nowhere. It was then that I found Thompson Rivers University's MATH 2121 course, with the aid of one of the Arts and Sciences academic advisors, which could be used as a transfer credit for MATH 112. Combined with CISC 102, of which I had previously taken, this could be used instead of MATH 110 as the pre-requisite for CISC 271. I was able to complete and pass this course last semester, writing the exam on the 17th of December. However, final grades did not show up on my account until the 10th of January. This did not allow for enough time for the official transcript to be mailed and processed by the add/drop deadline, January 20th. The credit showed up on my SOLUS account on January 23rd.
I have talked to both Dr. David Lamb, the Computing Undergraduate Chair, and Professor Randy Ellis, who is in charge of CISC 271, about the course and I have their permission to add the course past the add/drop deadline. I have also been going to the class since the beginning of the term, so I do not need to catch up on any material. There was a test today in the course that I completed, with the knowledge of Professor Ellis, so I am also not behind in that matter.
Thank you very much for your time, and I hope to hear back from you in the near future regarding this appeal.
Vivian Ren
My name is Vivian Ren, and I am currently a fourth year Biomedical Computing student. I am appealing to add CISC 271 after the add/drop deadline for the Winter 2017 term. Due to problems with filling pre-requisites, as had I swapped majors from Biochemistry to Biomedical Computing during my third year, I require a fifth year to complete my current plan. CISC 271 was one such course that required me to take pre-requisites I could not fill normally here at Queen's due to scheduling problems. It is also a course that is required for me to take CISC 330 and CISC 471 next year. All of these courses are required in my degree plan and, as such, are needed for me to graduate.
Originally, I planned to take Athabasca University's MATH 270 and MATH 271 courses during the Summer of 2015 as a transfer credit for MATH 110 here at Queen's, as required of the CISC 271 pre-requisites. However, after I finished MATH 270 in June 2015, MATH 271 had closed for registration as it went under revision. As it wasn't yet necessary for me to take CISC 271 during the 2015/2016 school year, I decided that I would take MATH 271 when next available.
However, checking on Athabasca's course availability, combined with correspondence to Athabasca's course advisers throughout the 2015 to 2016 years resulted in inaccurate information as to when the course would be available. At first, I was given an immediate answer by the course coordinator that MATH 271 will not be open most likely until November 2015. After November, however, the course availability on the site changed to Spring 2016. After that, it changed to Fall 2016 and by the first week of September, the course still was not available. At this point, I desperately required the course for CISC 271 for the Winter term, and an email sent to their academic advisers told me that the course would be up in January 2017. As of January 25th (the date when this letter was written), Athabasca University's course availability for MATH 271 appears to have been updated and the new course opening is expected to be Summer 2017. I had to look for an alternative else I had to take yet another year for my Bachelor's degree.
Asking for an exception for CISC 271 based on my circumstances, of course, got me nowhere. It was then that I found Thompson Rivers University's MATH 2121 course, with the aid of one of the Arts and Sciences academic advisors, which could be used as a transfer credit for MATH 112. Combined with CISC 102, of which I had previously taken, this could be used instead of MATH 110 as the pre-requisite for CISC 271. I was able to complete and pass this course last semester, writing the exam on the 17th of December. However, final grades did not show up on my account until the 10th of January. This did not allow for enough time for the official transcript to be mailed and processed by the add/drop deadline, January 20th. The credit showed up on my SOLUS account on January 23rd.
I have talked to both Dr. David Lamb, the Computing Undergraduate Chair, and Professor Randy Ellis, who is in charge of CISC 271, about the course and I have their permission to add the course past the add/drop deadline. I have also been going to the class since the beginning of the term, so I do not need to catch up on any material. There was a test today in the course that I completed, with the knowledge of Professor Ellis, so I am also not behind in that matter.
Thank you very much for your time, and I hope to hear back from you in the near future regarding this appeal.
Vivian Ren
Academic Plan
Academic Plan: After completing CISC 271, I will have the pre-requisites, bar CISC 352 and CISC 365, to take my 400 level CISC courses.
I will first attempt to see if the course COMP 456 is available in Athabasca before the Summer begins as I know that it is allowed as a transfer credit for CISC 352. I may also have to take a transfer credit for CISC 365 during the Summer depending on the term that CISC 471 is held. This will probably mean I'm taking it over the Summer nonetheless in case something unexpected occurs.
My overall course plan past this year involves:
Summer 2017:
CISC 352, CISC 365.
Fall 2017:
CISC 320, CISC 330, CISC 332, CISC 497.
Winter 2018:
CISC 471, CISC 472, CISC 499.
The only fixed courses, in terms of the term I have to take it in, would be the Summer courses, CISC 330, and CISC 472.
I will first attempt to see if the course COMP 456 is available in Athabasca before the Summer begins as I know that it is allowed as a transfer credit for CISC 352. I may also have to take a transfer credit for CISC 365 during the Summer depending on the term that CISC 471 is held. This will probably mean I'm taking it over the Summer nonetheless in case something unexpected occurs.
My overall course plan past this year involves:
Summer 2017:
CISC 352, CISC 365.
Fall 2017:
CISC 320, CISC 330, CISC 332, CISC 497.
Winter 2018:
CISC 471, CISC 472, CISC 499.
The only fixed courses, in terms of the term I have to take it in, would be the Summer courses, CISC 330, and CISC 472.
Documentation
Professional Letter: Re_ Appeal for late add of CISC 271 - Vivian Ren.pdf
Professional Letter Detail: This is an email thread indicating that both the Undergraduate Chair and Professor and are aware and can confirm my situation.
Documentation Detail: This was confirmation of my Dec. 17th exam day for MATH2121.
Document: VRen - Transcript order request.png
Documentation Detail: This is a screenshot of the transcript order status confirming I sent the transcript request out on the 10th.

